poli sci exam 2

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Matt 22:15-22 Give to Caesars what is his, Give to God what is His.Pharisees tried to trap jesus. lawful tax to caesar? – yes mad bc not nice king. no-gov will be mad.we are to obey civil gov but gov is limited bc caesar doesn't have authority over what is Gods.
Romans 13 everyone subject to governing authorities who is Gods acting agent to bring punishment, the attitude matters, with respect/willingness, authorities that exist come from God, resist authority=resisting God, obey bc conscious not wrath,
I Peter 2:13 submit to authority even if persecuted.. fear God and fear ruler , God sent by God to punish wrongdoers, submit to emperor, governor, etc
Acts 5:17-32 the high priest and the Sudducees arrested the apostles and put them in jail.. angel of Lord freed Peter & John tom jail. The apostles disobeyed the civil magistrate and continues to preach of the Lord.. fear God not man
Acts 4:1-20 Apostles teaching in the name of Jesus the resurrection of the dead.. in jail.. brought to the high priest.. told them not to speak of Jesus (healing the lame).. they said they could not help it
1 Timothy 2:13-14 pray for gov
Titus 3:1 reminding people to be subject to rulers and authorities
How does OT Scripture apply post christ? since can't tell civ & ecclesiastical apart in OT (israel cov community).. applies to church now bc cov community
I samuel 13:5-13 neither saul nor offspring will continue on the thrown. samuel doesn't show up when he thought he would.. late so started w/o you.. bc didn't wait took kingdom away.. king had no right to offer sacrifices.. king had no right to offer the sacrifice
II chronicles 26 level of civil and ecclesiastical diff, law above priests/kings.. don't interfere with each other.. Not kings job to burn incense ..King Uzzi tried to burn incense in the temple became angry and raged at priests.. leprosy broke out on his forehead
Leviticus 19:33-34 & Leviticus 24:22 same law for stranger & foreigner .. strangers and aliens can not take place in passover unless cut in cov. level off of separation (civ & e).. need to be separate to protect church from state
Exodus 22:28 don't blaspheme God or the ruler of your people implies honor the Lord your God, treat rulers with respect.. cursing ruler of kingdom i a serious offense
deuteronomy & ezra imparatives.. treat rulers with respect.. serious sin if not
Exodus 1 the midwives lied to ruler but were blessed.. gave them their own families
Daniel 3 Neb builds giant statue bow or fire furnace.. shadrach, mishack, and abendago were saved by Lord
Daniel 6 lions den.. pass law only to pray to king. wanted to kill daniel.. daniel becomes right hand to king bc God saved him from lion
Matt 5:17 Jesus didn't come to abolish law but to fulfill it. ceremonial law fulfilled by Jesus
Psalm 2 Psalm 2: kings of nations rise up against the Lord, God gives Jesus Nations as inheritance, earthly rulers be wise and serve the Lord with fear, kiss the Son..
Matt 13:29 Parable of Wheat and weeds, leave weeds bc will harm wheat. let grow until harvest collects weeds tie and burn give the wheat to me
Matt 28:18 All authority on earth comes from God
Luke 22:38 Disciples said "see Lord here are two swords that is enough"
Matt 16:13-19 Christ delegated civil and ecclesiastical power to Peter who passes it on to popes.. Therefore Pope has authority over everything
what are the 3 types of law according to Bahnsen moral-10 commandments, civil-punishments etc (judicial), ceremonial-related to priests/temple.. not today bc christ=ultimate sacrifice .. apply in OT and NT unless God says it doesn't. Civ law still focuses on justice .. out of moral law, principals cont.
Psalm 82 God reigns judgement among the Gods, defend the weak and fatherless rulers are Son of the most high, Church not over kind bc God has given King authority
Deuteronomy 17 not acquire great # of horses, many wives, or h heart will be led astray.not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold. he is to write copy of this law, taken from that of the Levitical priests read it every day learn to revere the Lord his God
how do cultural changes affect laws? parapets on rooves.. no longer but fences around pools etc. Gov can only do what Bible says
what does Bahnsen say about gov involvement in criminal justice and schools? yes -crim no-school
What can gov handle according to Bahsen OT judica law. gov protect us.. crim justice..
Spykmans view of gov creation ordinance, designed to provide justice to the poor
Spykman can't of from scripture to political philosophy, believes in church & state.. lots of views let them all flourish.. each sphere individual authority, grounded in scripture, not gov jobs to root out religions. take care of poor, social aspect
does Spykman believe in structural dualism yes.. church & state
spykman.. sphere of universality cooperative relativity among various social spheres
Spykman and public education wants vouchers, doesn't think everyone should go to gov run schools.. go to school of their choice
when does gov start for Bahnsen the fall
when does gov start for Spykman @ creation
worldview your paradigm of society, serving as your framework for evaluating issues of sate life, directing your efforts to define and clarify the place and task of civil gov within contemporary society.
Transformational, reformational worldview hermeneutically, bahnsens position is based upon biblical texts that teach rulers are divinely ordained administrators of public justice
hermanutics the theory and methodology of interpretation of scripture.. they way a person interprets the Bible
spkymans 3 views of the state within society individualist, collectivist, pluralist
spykman individualist held by the west.. people autonomous (free nation, not communist), state governing agency created by the people (democratic), popular sovereignty through social contract provide leadership (voting)
spykman collectivist popular in the east: the basic unit of society is an all -embracing megastructure institution (city-state, empire, Catholic Church), this institution acts as there central bureaucratic seat of authority, it controls all life in every sphere of society
pluralist those w/ a transformational, reformational worldview: men live w/in network of divinely ordained life-rships, God ordained spheres of activity..constitute life (family, school, state), people fulfill callings w/in this plurality of communal associations.
spykman-types of pluralism structural pluralism and confessional pluralism
spykman-structural pluralism means God has created the world with various structures (civ gov, marriage, the fam, etc.) which order life and coordinate human interaction
spykman-confessional pluralism the right of the various religious groups to develop their own patterns of involvement in public life through their own associations (schools, political, parties,etc.).. god established, , structures have responsibly, universal norms, roles from God
spykman-sphere sovereignty teaches that sphere in society has its own independent authority; no on sphere should dominate or usurp the role of others, each type of believers has their own interpretation
what does spykman say about public education says they don't need to go to public schools should get vouchers to any school they wish
how does matt 13:29 apply to spkyman dont pull weeds because might uproot wheat with it.. grow together until harvest (end)..weeds in bundle- burned then bring the wheat to me.. not responsibility of gov to root out religions..there is a true religion tho.. sphere sovereignty support.
what do Bahnsen and spykman agree on gov should not interfere with religion
what do Bahnsen and spykman disagree on spykman says God created gov and should reflect God's goodness and justice, Bahnsen says gov is result of the fall.. can reflect God bc not God ordained
what did spkyman write and when the principled pluralist position in 1989
what similarities do Gould, Bahnsen, and spykman have in common all form reformed perspective, bible has something to do with Gov.
what did Gould write and when? National confession primer.. in 1997
Gould ramble should have confession of Christs Lordship (rather than current which says we the people highest power), christ recognized as ruler of everything, judged as nations. punishments for kings and nations for rebelling,
what does gould think should happen if someone doesn't believe christ is king nation should still declare christ is king but not everyone has to believe it
does Gould want to proclaim a certain religion no he just wants nations to say Christ is king over all.. not certain demonination tho
how does Matt 28:18 relate to Gould all authority on earth comes form God
example of no israelite king that did not recognize christ as king Nebuchadnessar
how are the people of the us responsible according to gould we the people are the gov so we are responsible for the nations sins
who was responsible for Rome being invaded by Germanic tribes and why chirstians bc kiss enemy on the cheek. not able to defend themselves
rome and chrisianity citizens were to put rome first.. rome long history of polytheism, romes unity to state was being destroyed by christianity,
traditionalist view that christians caused the defeat of rome 1. christians have weakened Rome bc of peace and love 2. wouldn't ultimately give loyalty to Caesar, Christians questioning loyalty owed bc loyal was to God 3. Christians seen as intolerant and exclusive 4. in adherence to God they made other Gods mad
Questions to christians?: 1. to what extent do we have to obey caesar if he is an unjust ruler? 2. do we have any business serving in the military?
what is augustine writing to respond to? the fact the people are saying that it is the christians fault for the fall of rome.. he says that isn't true
what does augustine have to say about justice and rome 1. justice can only come with christ as king 2. rome fell apart bc they never established justice.. so could never develop as a civil society.. justice can exist if christ is king
augustine civil society is an assemblage associated by a common acknowledgment of common right and community of interest (humans social must interact, live together), community only community of they recognize there is 1 justice
what does augustine say a kingdom must have justice & christian principals: 1. only thing that separates kingdom from robbers, 2. reflective of christ being king, 3. most famous presidents ruled during war. lincoln, washingoton, roosevelt etc.
why did rome fall about according to augustine didn't have a structured justice system
how is gov diff from robbers according to Augustine bc they have authority from God
how is justice found according to augustine through Gods laws only
augustines 2 cities city of man-alligence to gods desires, love go God, city of man- love of self
what does the city of man and city of god both need civil gov man- bc of consequences like war, need it for protection.. god- bc go sin and have to live with members of city of man, for conscious sake, not perfect, protect from outsiders, to teach to recognize sin
what does augustine say about submitting to governing authorities everyone should must obey civ gov except when gov tells them who and how to worship.
which of the 5 theories would augustine #1- submit unless law makes us sin directly
augustines: 2 responsibilities 1. ruler pass just laws 2. citizens must obey regardless of structure
Augustines just war theory just and unjust distinguished by motive and method, only fight in just war, ruler morally culpable for unjust war, leader decides if it just war citizens must submit
nuermberg trials sentencing of 22 nazis but not morally culpable.. blamed predecessor
pope gelasius 2 swords.. God separated power so not one person would have all the power-recognize sin. no one has the right to put the swords together. Christ = perfect so he can do civil & ecclesiastical but humans cannot.. get power from God and can't interfere other
gelacious what do the swords symbolize authority
how does Luke 22:38 support gelacius 2 swords the disciples said "see lord here are 2 swords, that is enough".. civil and ecclesiastical each have own sphere of authority… must be separate
gelacius -what is civil gov responsible for city of man
pope gelasius 2 swords.. God separated power so not one person would have all the power-recognize sin. no one has the right to put the swords together. Christ = perfect so he can do civil & ecclesiastical but humans cannot.. get power from God and can't interfere other
gelacious what do the swords symbolize authority
gelacius-which powers fall where? who wins in the rare circumstance there is a dispute.. why? according to gelacius this is obvious but he does not tell us .. the priest wins because gives answer for soul of prince .. give advice to civil auth
how does Luke 22:38 support gelacius 2 swords the disciples said "see lord here are 2 swords, that is enough".. civil and ecclesiastical each have own sphere of authority… must be separate
when is the two swords (gelacius theory) popular? the medieval times up until the reformation. dominates for 1000 yrs
gelacius -what is civil gov responsible for city of man
what is the papal supremacy model in response to? gelacius papal supremacy
gelacius-what is ecclesiastical responsible for city of God
how is the civ power limited according to gelacius limited from God
gelacius-which powers fall where? who wins in the rare circumstance there is a dispute.. why? according to gelacius this is obvious but he does not tell us .. the priest wins because gives answer for soul of prince .. give advice to civil auth
papal supremacy model when civ and ecc disagree, church wins, Pope final auth, Christ gives all authority to Church gives to civil magistrate.. civ mag gets sword from church. if king goes against God- self above god. if prefer things of man above God no longer a legit ruler
when is the two swords (gelacius theory) popular? the medieval times up until the reformation. dominates for 1000 yrs
what is the papal supremacy model in response to? gelacius papal supremacy
how is the civ power limited according to gelacius limited from God
papal supremacy model when civ and ecc disagree, church wins, Pope final auth, Christ gives all authority to Church gives to civil magistrate.. civ mag gets sword from church. if king goes against God- self above god. if prefer things of man above God no longer a legit ruler
how does matt 28 agree with papal supremacy all authority given to Christ- great commission.. "all power given to me" christ
how does matt 16:13-16 support papal supremacy christ delegates civ and dcc power to Peter who passes it on to popes not just dcc but both.. Peter becomes bishop of Rome .. Pope final authority.. everything that happens on earth is Peters responsibility
example of Papal supremacy in real life Pope Gregory and Henry VI argue abou
symbol of papal supremacy in real life orb and sword given to the Queen for power by the Church
does church have the right to give and take away the sword in Papal supremacy? yes
John salisbury builds on gelacius. make bib argument, God>Church>Civ.. civil independent but equal power, but church accountable.. priest is responsible for society but doesn't mean should do everything.. civil does jobs not worthy of priesthood
salisbury- what do the diff body parts represent head-the prince, priest/church
what does salisbury believe in papal supremacy
what is the rule of civ magistrate according to salisbury to rule according to Gods law, can enforce laws that go against Bible
how does Salisbury distinguish between a prince and a tyrant prince-fightsfor tights of people; rules according to Gods laws. Tyrant- wicked, refused to follow God's law- should be killed
when does Salisbury say you no longer have to obey a ruler if they are a tyrant.. if they are no longer a Romans 13 king
why did people not like the Papal supremacy model because felt the church had become corrupt and had all the power.. not a good idea
highest point in Papal supremacy papal bull: speaking w/ Christs authority.. Unam sanctum- church wins.. sword meant coercive power
who does Dante disagree with Salisbury
Dante humans have 2 ends (goals).. 1. spiritual through church/faith 2. earthly through reason/gov.. God gave us both like Gelacius, 2 swords. therefore 2 guides.neither can interfere with the other.. sovereign gets power directly from God.
who wins in Dantes model and why? civ wins bc deals with reason.. faith and reason separate can't intermingle them.
What does Dante write and when? 1265-1321-de monarchia
What did Machiavelli write and when? 1465-15__… "The Prince".. while he was under house arrest..
Machiavelli interpersonal ethics different than state ethics.. inter per.. love god & neighbor motivation of state should be what is best for the state and state to survive. better to be feared than loved. can tell how to worship if interfering with state affairs.
who does machiavelli say has the power the state
why does machiavelli say can't preach by the Bible because people will be taken advantage of
James I of england Church not over kind because God has given authority, kings power directly from God, therefore disobedience is blasphemy, king responsible to Gods law, king has a right to say how to worship.. God-King-Church
What are kings seen as according to James 1 1. gods-civil magistrate.. sit upon thrown on earth 2. fathers as head of family.. responsible for nourishing, educating "children" 3. head of body.. part of reason
whose responsible for the king according to James 1 God.. people can't tell him what to do.. considered blasphemy
Marsiglio of Padua weightier part of people.. 1. good of people 2. will of people.. good ruler rules for benefit of the people.. doesn't mention Gods law that limits
natural law there are ethical absolutes that apply to all people at all times: process is the key, belief that there are fundamental ethical principles that apply to all people at all times (salisbury and James 1)
positive law good and thical vary in time and place (distinction between no absolute ethical truths and ignoring ethical truths), belief there is no ethical absolutes, what is good for people will differ from culture to culture.. determine ethical laws by voting..
Luther Romas 13- papal supremacy can't be right. church and state separate ordained by God. must obey it bc God. 2 kingdoms- heaven and earth, only 1 sword, church has no coercive power. need civ to protect us from non christians. earthly-protect & teach sin
what verses support James 1 Psalm 82- calls kings Gods and Romans 13-servants of God
does Machiavelli like just war no doesn't buy it bc tries to apply interpersonal to state craft
erastianism (who and what) civ mag> church, right to uses religious appeals for the advancement of the state
anabaptists early reformation group, gov comes from God, only for sinful humans, state only for christian protection,obey but don't have the right to use gov (fin aid, ), C may not ethically serve in gov,gov auth only in secular matters, church, state sep back in ref
what are the 3 major theories for christian warfare Anabaptists- not ok to fight in war ever, Just War- augustine. ok for just cause and methods, Christian Realism- machiavelli- just war isn't possible
what do some national confessionalists say about war ok as long as county declares christ as king..
passages in support for Luther Romans 13-ministers of God can't be evil and Matt 22
can you rebuke rulers according to Luther & James 1 Luther says yes, James says no
who is to keep the civ magistrate accountable according to luther church
when does Luther say its ok to not obey gov 1. when it causes us to sin 2. when it calls us to fight in an unjust war 3. when it calls you to injustice
Calvin optimistic about gov-encourage us to be good, church & state separate, 1 sword, gov maintain order, civ magistrate enforce religion, civ magistrate rule for God's glory, should encourage all 10 cmments, power in the people
responsibilities of government according to Calvin 1. encourage people to worship God, 2. defend doctrine of the church 3. establish peace and tranquillity
when does Calvin say its ok to disobey gov when it calls to sin
how should citizens respond to gov according to calvin must obey (romans 13), only time disobey is when gov calls you to sin
ideas that spring from Calvin 1. separation of powers 2. federalism, 3. openness to monarchy
according to Luther and Calvin should there be an mandated religion (scripture) no
what advice do Luther and Calvin say scripture gives about gov Luther says: We should have a Monarchy-Duteronomy 17: qualifications of KINGS.. best form of gov..easier to argue with King than mob.. Calvin:
what are the limits of obeying gov ethical limits.. examples: don't tell bro what to do.. under certain circumstances you can .. get out of road, if house on fire ect.
What are the 5 theories of disobeying Gov 1. law that tries to make us sin (exodus 1 & daniel 3 & 6) 2. law that is in itself sinful.. even if it does not make us sin directly. 3. gov when it exceeds it authority 4. laws created by a pagan ruler.. deuteronomy 17 5. ethical right.. laws don't like
what is the most commonly cited verse about not taxing the church matt 22.. give to caesars what is caesars and church what is church.. build churches in certain areas bc can't tax.. loss of tax rev.. leads gov to consider what is really a church..who decides what is central to church.. gym, picnic etc.
What did Bahnsen write & when? Theonomic Position.. 1989
theonomy God's law..
Bahnsen God is sovereign, reformed persepctive, gov law should be based on10 commandments, no idoloty,God's lawbasis for nation, show respect, Kings obey Jesus, Bible for all answers, sin means we can't rely on humans for answers, ground everything in scripture
do laws have to be repeated in the NT to be valid no

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